Forums - ST: Cammy vs Dhalsim Show all 17 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Strategy & Tactics (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=10) -- ST: Cammy vs Dhalsim (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=32108) Posted by Nothingness on 07:24:2001 05:23 AM: ST: Cammy vs Dhalsim How do you beat Cammy W/ Dhalsim ? After witnessing the true power that she has over him, its in need of any strategies that people have for Dhalsim . The game in question is ST. Posted by unknown shadow on 07:24:2001 05:38 AM: ST: Cammy vs Dhalsim play keep away with iron mans projectile assist hehe Posted by jchensor on 07:24:2001 05:54 AM: Come on, Unknown Shadow, try to keep posts relevent and HELPFUL. ^_^ Dhalsim is very good against Cammy, I should know, I'm a Cammy player. Dhalsim's best anti-air against Cammy is Jump Backwards + Fierce. Throw a fireball from far away, when she jumps over, jump backwards and Fierce her in the head. If you time it right, she can't trade or hit it with Jumping Forward. But mostly, play keep away. She has no real counter to the Yoga Fire, so that'll definitely be what you base your game around. Just do your best to keep her away. But if Cammy knows what she's doing, it can definitely be pretty darned tough. - James Posted by Masaka on 07:24:2001 12:30 PM: quote: Originally posted by jchensor Come on, Unknown Shadow, try to keep posts relevent and HELPFUL. ^_^ Dhalsim is very good against Cammy, I should know, I'm a Cammy player. Dhalsim's best anti-air against Cammy is Jump Backwards + Fierce. Throw a fireball from far away, when she jumps over, jump backwards and Fierce her in the head. If you time it right, she can't trade or hit it with Jumping Forward. But mostly, play keep away. She has no real counter to the Yoga Fire, so that'll definitely be what you base your game around. Just do your best to keep her away. But if Cammy knows what she's doing, it can definitely be pretty darned tough. - James Why are you asking Bill? I actually think Cammy's a pretty good choice against Sim, mainly due to her jumping strong. It beats almost EVERY one of Sim's limbs, which lets her jump in on Sim almost for free. You can jump straight up and down over yoga fires with no fear of retaliation. I've fought a couple of really good Dhalsim's with Cammy and had pretty good success with her. Masaka Posted by emagius on 07:24:2001 03:09 PM: I personally don't see a surefire way for Dhalsim to beat Cammy. Offensively, Dhalsim's limbs get beaten by Cammy's quick pokes or Cannon Spike, and defensively... well, Dhalsim's going to get chipped or poked to death. Dhalsim's throw range can be used in his favor, along with his ground based anti-airs and jumping-back fierce. I can't think of a real strategy here, though. Any other thoughts? Posted by Nothingness on 07:24:2001 03:20 PM: Yeah Masaka i watched some of that match with you and spence and couldnt believe that the strong was that powerful. Most people forget about the regulars. Her strong is nuts. He must tele out or be hit. Many people think its easy for sim but i feel that she wins about 6.5-3.5 giveortake. which is why i want to do a tier thing. Like the one in the old ST guide. Your match w/ Spence was interesting b/c i was wondering why he couldnt effectively zone you w/them limbs. He always has to watch for the psychic DP w/ all characters but in your case it never became a factor due to jumping strong. Does she have any ground defense? or is her s.strong & c.strong.just as powerful as her j.strong? Posted by Crayfish on 07:24:2001 03:21 PM: quote: Originally posted by Masaka Why are you asking Bill? I actually think Cammy's a pretty good choice against Sim, mainly due to her jumping strong. It beats almost EVERY one of Sim's limbs, which lets her jump in on Sim almost for free. You can jump straight up and down over yoga fires with no fear of retaliation. I've fought a couple of really good Dhalsim's with Cammy and had pretty good success with her. Masaka I can vouch for that. Masaka's being humble, but I have seen his "Sim Killing" Cammy in action against some top Sims. As a Sim player it was painfull to watch, it really is that brutal. Crayfish. Posted by psx2000 on 07:24:2001 03:22 PM: btw here is my take on it, i think cammy to beat sim needs to seriouslly trap him in the corner or keep him locked down with solid pressure and pokes . And learn to abuse the heck out of cannon spike on those limbs. I know all this is easier said then done though. For sim i say he has the upper hand as long as he can play limb games with her all day long. Posted by psx2000 on 07:24:2001 03:23 PM: Re: ST: Cammy vs Dhalsim quote: Originally posted by unknown shadow play keep away with iron mans projectile assist hehe btw stop the pointless post. Posted by Masaka on 07:24:2001 04:42 PM: quote: Originally posted by emagius I personally don't see a surefire way for Dhalsim to beat Cammy. Offensively, Dhalsim's limbs get beaten by Cammy's quick pokes or Cannon Spike, and defensively... well, Dhalsim's going to get chipped or poked to death. I personally almost never use the Spike against Sim, if he's playing limb games with me. If it's blocked, that's free damage for him. Really though, there's almost no need to use it, with j. strong in your arsenal. I've never really counted "DP his limbs" as a good strategy against Sim With j. strong though, there's no real thought involved, just kinda throw it out there. quote: Originally posted by Nothingness Your match w/ Spence was interesting b/c i was wondering why he couldnt effectively zone you w/them limbs. He always has to watch for the psychic DP w/ all characters but in your case it never became a factor due to jumping strong. Does she have any ground defense? or is her s.strong & c.strong.just as powerful as her j.strong? Groundwise, I tend to stick with forward, duck forward and standing fierce, with an occassional far standing strong thrown in. The strong has really deceptive range from far away. The problem with those pokes of course, is that you have to get close enough in order to use them. Against Sim, you have the luxury of jump strong, so you have the choice of jumping in or using the cannon drill. The max distance cannon drill is pretty safe, and it's a great counter against a whiffed standing limb from Sim. quote: Originally posted by psx2000 For sim i say he has the upper hand as long as he can play limb games with her all day long. The problem for Sim is that the j. strong takes out just about everything Sim sticks out, and that hurts a big part of his game. I think that's what gives her the upperhand in this match. Masaka Posted by JumpsuitJesse on 07:24:2001 05:33 PM: I love this shit! Seeing a supposedly low tier character rise up from the ashes to kick some top tier ass! Cammy can be a really mean bitch. I don'play her at all, but seeing players using her in ways no one has ever thought of is what I enjoy seeing. See what happens when you use your noggin for something other than a punching bag? JumpsuitJesse "Your head doesn't look like a punching bag! It looks like a catchers mit!" Rocky 4 Posted by dublo7 on 07:25:2001 12:44 AM: well, geez, nothingness... all i have to do is look 2 pgs deep into the strat forum for sim vs cammy yak? thanx! cammy has always been tough for sim due to her jumping strong and the comboable hooligan off the cr. fwd or st. close strong. the hooligan is really the main killer, imho u just don't see anyone combo it well, like masaka does. plus they butchered the hooligan in future games so ppl will leave it alone in this one - they shouldn't. fortunately/unfortunately i have seen it b4 - one of my t.o.peeps did this back in '95 but of course, i haven't seen anyone use her since, nor do i have (we just weren't doing that then ^_^) any of it on tape. i wasn't doing well vs it back then, either :-( i was just surprised to see her straight up jump strong beat sim's cr fwd fierce! i don't remember that. not many moves that do that, only dj's rh and guile's (old?) fierce. those moves usually aren't a factor in those games, anyway. frankly cammy doesn't need the d.p. this is where i wish st sim had a3 sim's airthrow ah well....... back to the drawing board and viewing studio. i'm going to have to watch more o' that matchup. "back to the lab, without a mic to..." Posted by kalok on 07:25:2001 01:41 AM: no way sim!cammy is one of the sim 's killers..... Posted by jchensor on 07:25:2001 06:25 AM: quote: Originally posted by JumpsuitJesse I love this shit! Seeing a supposedly low tier character rise up from the ashes to kick some top tier ass! Cammy can be a really mean bitch. I don'play her at all, but seeing players using her in ways no one has ever thought of is what I enjoy seeing. See what happens when you use your noggin for something other than a punching bag? JumpsuitJesse "Your head doesn't look like a punching bag! It looks like a catchers mit!" Rocky 4 No kidding. Cammy is my absolute favorite character in Super Turbo... I only say that Dhalsim is a tough fight for her because of experience. I've matched up against some REALLY hard Dhalsim fights before, and believe me, against expert 'Sims, the fight is no walk in the park for Cammy either. When they are able to keep you away, they will keep you away!! By no means, though, am I saying Cammy loses to Dhalsim everytime. The fact that one good combo means the death of Dhalsim defintiely puts a lot of fight back in Cammy for this match-up. At least from my experience it does. I'm not sure how this fight goes in, say, Japan... Though I'd be dying to know. ^_^ - James Posted by kalok on 07:25:2001 01:35 PM: honda and blanka kill cammy easily....sorry.... cammy is not gd against the torpedo chars..... Posted by Nothingness on 07:25:2001 06:56 PM: Why am i bothering to respond here but i will. Yes your right cammy does lose to honda. But id like to see proof of blanka beating cammy. ACtually she wins against him IMHO. He is hit for free, everytime he misses a ball which takes away a huge part of his game. And he hasnt much defense against the O'Hooligan throw ( Oh wait thats Irish not english!). blanka must fight a ground battle which depends on the hop and shorts and c.fierces. Reguardless this thread is about Cammy vs Dhalsim. Not Honda and Blanka. Posted by kalok on 07:26:2001 04:30 AM: ok,ok,forget about blanka.....he is really suck in st!even cammy can beat him!btw,wht about cammy vs her clone:fei long??? All times are GMT. The time now is 09:34 PM. Show all 17 posts from this thread on one page Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.4 Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000, 2001.